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Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:17 pm
Slovakian letter set Quote · reply

Slovakian letter set

Since we have got a Slovakian dictionary (slovencina.dic) today, I want to publish the Slovakian letter set here as well:


Copy from here:

A 9 1 1 4 1 10 B 2 4 C 1 4 Č 1 5 D 3 2 Ď 1 8 E 8 1 1 7 F 1 8 G 1 8
H 1 4 I 5 1 1 5 J 2 3 K 3 2 L 3 2 Ľ 1 7 Ĺ 1 10 M 4 2 N 5 1 Ň 1 8
O 9 1 1 8 1 10 0 0 P 3 2 Q 0 0 R 4 1 Ŕ 1 10 S 4 1 1 5 T 4 1
Ť 1 7 U 2 3 1 7 0 0 V 4 1 W 0 0 X 1 10 Y 1 4 1 5 Z 1 4 1 5




Letter - Count - Value

A 9 1
1 4
1 10
B 2 4
C 1 4
Č 1 5
D 3 2
Ď 1 8
E 8 1
1 7
F 1 8
G 1 8
H 1 4
I 5 1
1 5
J 2 3
K 3 2
L 3 2
Ľ 1 7
Ĺ 1 10
M 4 2
N 5 1
Ň 1 8
O 9 1
1 8
1 10
0 0
P 3 2
Q 0 0
R 4 1
Ŕ 1 10
S 4 1
1 5
T 4 1
Ť 1 7
U 2 3
1 7
0 0
V 4 1
W 0 0
X 1 10
Y 1 4
1 5
Z 1 4
1 5

Jokers: 2 Value: 0

= Totally 100 tiles




You can easily copy the Slovakian letter set from here (Ctrl+C) and paste it (Ctrl+V) into the letter set table of the Scrabble3D settings which you find when you click on Configuration > Settings > Letters.


I have compared this letter set with the letter set given on the Dutch Wikipedia site http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabble#Slowaaks. I have found that so far everything is correct. , Q, and W, however, are listed in our letter set with count 0 and value 0. This means that , Q, and W will never appear as letters on the rack, but can be placed by using a joker.

See also
http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabble (in Slovakian)
http://www.hramescrabble.sk/


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Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:12 am
#2 RE: Slovakian letter set: - Ě and Ř Quote · reply

On http://www.hramescrabble.sk/, which seems to be the official Slovakian Scrabble site, I have found this :


olk me nahrdzať okrem bench psmen slovenskej abecedy - teda okrem psmen, ktor s vo vrecku - aj psmen W, Q, , , Ě a Ř, ak ich pouitm vznikne platn slovo.

As far as I have understood, this means that a joker may be used for the letters W, Q, , , Ě and Ř which obviously are not included in the basic Slovakian letter set.

But in the letter set in my posting #1 I cannot see the letters Ě and Ř yet. They would not appear when chosing a letter for a joker.

I think that we should add them to the letter set like this:


Ě 0 0
Ř 0 0


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Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:16 am
#3 RE: Slovakian letter set: - Digraphs DZ, D, CH Quote · reply

Zitat von http://www.hramescrabble.sk/
Dvojpsmenkov hlsky slovenskej abecedy (DZ, D, CH) musia byť zloen z dvoch kameňov.


The Slovakian digraphs DZ, D, CH, however, have to be composed by two single letters each, since digraph tiles do not exist in Slovakian Scrabble.


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Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:15 am
#4 RE: Slovakian letter set: - Ě and Ř Quote · reply

ě and ř are typical czech consonants and i am unaware of any slovak word that would contain in. in fact many slovaks do not really know how to properly pronounce ř and neither of these letters is contained in slovak.dic. therefore for me it seems to be unnecessary to have them included in the set. jose


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Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:54 pm
#5 RE: Slovakian letter set: - digraphs Quote · reply

Josef reminded me that slovak letter set is still missing. Reading the old postings brings me to the question about digraphs. Was there a decision made finally?


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Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:14 pm
#6 RE: Slovakian letter set: - digraphs Quote · reply

hi scotty, digraphs are not really interesting from scrabble point of view. yes, they exist but it does not change the way how words are calculated or composed..


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Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:44 pm
#7 RE: Slovakian letter set: - digraphs Quote · reply

A digraph must not be calculated as two separate letters. For example, spanish people could use L and L but actually it's an LL. My program subsitutes a single char (e.g. Ĺ) and replaces all output with LL. If slovak needs DZ, D, CH you should replace those digraphs in your dictionary and I have to apply a proper letter set. BTW, I plan to reintroduce a feature that a letterset can be loaded from dic file.


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Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:49 pm
#8 RE: Slovakian letter set: - digraphs Quote · reply

scotty, this is an official scrabble rule (slovak variant) - there are no separate score values for digraphs.


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Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:56 pm
#9 RE: Slovakian letter set Quote · reply

Could you please simply confirm, dear jose1711, if the letter set I posted in my posting number 1 is the correct and official one or not, i.e. the letter set used in Slovak Scrabble tournaments?


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Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:57 pm
#10 RE: Slovakian letter set Quote · reply

yes, i checked it in the past and it is fully valid


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Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:33 am
#11 RE: Slovakian letter set Quote · reply

Okay, thread closed.


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